# Ep. 41 | Qualcomm's VP of XR Hugo Swart Explains How VR, AR, MR, and Metaverse Will Change The World

- Show: [Moore's Lobby](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby)
- Published: 2022-03-15
- Length: 54m
- Episode: 1
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha
- Listen: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/podcast/ep-41-qualcomms-vp-xr-hugo-swart-explains-vr-ar-mr-metaverse-will-change-world

## Summary

Hugo Swart, Qualcomm's VP of XR, explains how the Snapdragon XR2 platform unites AI and 5G to drive the 'spatial internet' or metaverse, a shift he compares to the smartphone era. He details the engineering challenges of designing for XR, including minimizing motion-to-photon latency, managing extreme power constraints for AR glasses, and integrating multiple cameras for mixed reality. Swart highlights key partnerships with Microsoft and Meta, noting that the Snapdragon XR2 was named one of TIME's Best Inventions of 2021, and discusses use cases ranging from healthcare rehabilitation to social connection.

## Chapters

- [0:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha#t=1) Introduction: Hugo Swart and Qualcomm's XR Vision
- [1:25](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha#t=85) Hugo Swart's Career Path from Brazil to Qualcomm
- [6:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha#t=412) The Evolution from Wireless to XR and Snapdragon Platforms
- [14:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha#t=858) Defining XR, AR, VR, and MR Terminology
- [25:19](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha#t=1519) Hardware Design Challenges: Latency, Power, and Cameras
- [32:53](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha#t=1973) Defining the Metaverse as the Spatial Internet
- [38:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha#t=2331) Chip Design Process and Key Partnerships with Microsoft and Meta
- [45:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2022-03-15-ep-41-qualcomms-vp-of-xr-hugo-swart-explains-how-vr-ar-mr-and-metaverse-will-cha#t=2736) XR Use Cases: Healthcare, Travel, and Social Connection

## Topics

- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Wireless & RF](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/wireless-and-rf)
- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Qualcomm (company)
- Snapdragon XR2 (chip)
- Microsoft (company)
- Meta (company)
- Oculus (company)
- Google (company)
- Penumbra (company)
- Amazon Fire TV (product)
- HoloLens (product)
- Quest 2 (product)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Smartphones, China, Gaming, AR — and a Snapdragon to Rule Them All](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-12-13-smartphones-china-gaming-ar-and-a-snapdragon-to-rule-them-all) (EE Times Current)
- [How to Build a Metaverse](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-11-05-how-to-build-a-metaverse) (EE Times Current)
- [5G and the Internet of Everything](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-08-06-5g-and-the-internet-of-everything) (EE Times Current)
- [Bigger Than Smartphones](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-09-03-bigger-than-smartphones) (EE Times Current)
- [The Metaverse: You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet. Literally](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2022-03-04-the-metaverse-you-aint-seen-nothin-yet-literally) (EE Times Current)

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