# Ep. 7 | The Wi-SUN-Powered Future of IoT Smart Cities with Renesas and Landis+Gyr

- Show: [Moore's Lobby](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby)
- Published: 2020-08-07
- Length: 45m
- Episode: 7
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr
- Listen: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/podcast/moores-lobby-ep-7-wi-sun-future-iot-smart-cities-renesas-landis-gyr

## Summary

Peter Canasco of Renesas and Jeff Sheb of Landis+Gyr discuss Wi-SUN, an open, IP-based mesh protocol for smart cities and utilities. They compare Wi-SUN’s mesh topology and FSK modulation against LoRa’s star topology and Chirp Spread Spectrum, highlighting Wi-SUN’s suitability for high-data-rate applications like smart metering. The guests detail Renesas’s certified software stacks and modules, and Landis+Gyr’s use of pre-certified modules to balance time-to-market with cost, while emphasizing the critical importance of antenna design in final product integration.

## Chapters

- [0:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=1) Introduction: Wi-SUN Overview and Comparison with LoRa
- [2:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=148) Wi-SUN vs. LoRa: Mesh Topology, Data Rates, and Modulation
- [6:44](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=404) Wi-SUN Architecture: IP-based, Security, and Smart City Applications
- [14:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=873) Renesas’s Role: Certified Stacks, Reference Designs, and Silicon
- [21:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=1311) Peter Canasco’s Career: From Analog Hobbyist to Smart Energy Leader
- [28:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=1720) Sponsor Read: Rohde & Schwarz Test Solutions
- [29:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=1760) Jeff Sheb on Wi-SUN Network Joining, Mesh Robustness, and Security
- [33:48](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=2028) Smart City Use Cases: Street Lighting, Pollution, and Gunshot Detection
- [36:16](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=2176) Modules vs. Custom Silicon: Time-to-Market vs. Cost Trade-offs
- [39:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-08-07-ep-7-the-wi-sun-powered-future-of-iot-smart-cities-with-renesas-and-landis-gyr#t=2386) Antenna Design Challenges and Future Wi-SUN BAN Certification

## Topics

- [Wireless & RF](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/wireless-and-rf)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [PCB design & layout](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pcb-design)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [Certification & compliance](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/certification-and-compliance)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Wi-SUN (other)
- Renesas (company)
- Landis+Gyr (company)
- LoRa (other)
- Narrowband IoT (other)
- Rohde & Schwarz (company)
- Cisco (company)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Building Resilient Smart Cities | Wi-SUN Alliance's Phil Beecher | Internet of Things Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2023-12-05-building-resilient-smart-cities-wi-sun-alliances-phil-beecher-internet-of-things) (IoT For All Podcast)
- [Smart Cities: Part 1](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2018-08-09-smart-cities-part-1) (EE Times Current)
- [Watt Is The Deal](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2024-09-23-watt-is-the-deal) (The Amp Hour)
- [An Interview with Richard Ginus](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-01-22-an-interview-with-richard-ginus) (The Amp Hour)
- [Are Mesh Networks Right For You? | Embetech's Lukasz Krzak | Internet of Things Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2023-02-23-are-mesh-networks-right-for-you-embetechs-lukasz-krzak-internet-of-things-podcas) (IoT For All Podcast)

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