# Ep. 5 | LoRaWAN: The Things Network and LoRa Alliance Talk Open IoT

- Show: [Moore's Lobby](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby)
- Published: 2020-07-10
- Length: 47m
- Episode: 5
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot
- Listen: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/podcast/ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot

## Summary

Wienke Giezeman, co-founder and CEO of The Things Network, and Dave Kjendal, CTO/COO of Senet and LoRa Alliance board member, discuss the LoRaWAN protocol for open IoT. They explain why LoRaWAN’s low power, spread spectrum modulation, and lack of vendor lock-in make it superior to NB-IoT and Sigfox for wide-area applications like agriculture and smart cities. The conversation highlights the technical architecture, including secure elements like the Microchip ATECC608, and the business case for open standards versus proprietary 'walled gardens.'

## Chapters

- [0:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot#t=1) Introduction: LoRaWAN Landscape and Protocol Selection
- [2:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot#t=146) Dave Kjendal on LoRaWAN vs. NB-IoT and Sigfox
- [5:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot#t=341) LoRaWAN Technical Advantages: Spread Spectrum and Spatial Diversity
- [12:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot#t=775) Chip-Down Design vs. Radio Modules and SoCs
- [16:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot#t=997) Wienke Giezeman on Open Standards and Vendor Lock-in
- [24:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot#t=1444) LoRaWAN Architecture: Gateways, Network Servers, and Security
- [33:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot#t=1994) Real-World Fragmentation and Food Safety Use Cases
- [37:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2020-07-10-ep-5-lorawan-the-things-network-and-lora-alliance-talk-open-iot#t=2263) Getting Started with The Things Network and Developer Tools

## Topics

- [Wireless & RF](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/wireless-and-rf)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Starting a product company](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/starting-a-company)
- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- The Things Network (company)
- Senet (company)
- LoRa Alliance (other)
- Sigfox (other)
- NB-IoT (other)
- LTE Cat M1 (other)
- Microchip (company)
- ATECC608 (chip)
- ST (company)
- Semtech (company)
- Fractus Antennas (company)
- Azure IoT (other)
- AWS IoT (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [What Are LoRa and LoRaWAN? | Wienke Giezeman, CEO & Co-Founder of The Things Industries | #IoTFounders E048](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2020-01-16-what-are-lora-and-lorawan-wienke-giezeman-ceo-co-founder-of-the-things-industrie) (IoT For All Podcast)
- [LoRaWAN’s Role in IoT | LoRa® Alliance's Donna Moore](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-02-02-lorawans-role-in-iot-lora-alliances-donna-moore) (IoT For All Podcast)
- [An Interview with Richard Ginus](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-01-22-an-interview-with-richard-ginus) (The Amp Hour)
- [How LoRaWAN is Accelerating IoT | LoRa Alliance's Alper Yegin](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-06-30-how-lorawan-is-accelerating-iot-lora-alliances-alper-yegin) (IoT For All Podcast)
- [E055 Semtech's Hardy Schmidbauer | The Future of LoRa and LPWAN in IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2020-03-03-e055-semtechs-hardy-schmidbauer-the-future-of-lora-and-lpwan-in-iot) (IoT For All Podcast)

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