Hardware Podcasts

257: Thinking Differently About Access to Capital in Manufacturing featuring CLA (CliftonLarsonAllen)

Manufacturing Happy Hour · 14 Oct 2025 · 1h 05m

What this episode covers

Erik Skie, Jon Hughes, and Aaron Traut from CLA (CliftonLarsonAllen) discuss how manufacturers can improve access to capital by shifting their mindset from margin-focused quoting to capacity utilization. They explain that profitability is a decision driven by shop floor activities, and that banks look for strong cash flow and efficient asset use rather than just high margins. The panel also covers current opportunities like bonus depreciation under the Big Beautiful Bill Act and the Made in America initiative to help manufacturers finance expansion and reduce risk.

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established companies

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CLA, CliftonLarsonAllen, Moxa, SBA
Also
Big Beautiful Bill Act, Made in America

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