# 489: Pet The Cat

- Show: [Making It](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it)
- Published: 2025-07-11
- Length: 1h 13m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat
- Listen: https://making-it-with-jimmy-diresta-bob-clagett-and-david-picciuto.castos.com/episodes/489-pet-the-cat

## Summary

Jimmy Diresta, Bob Clagett, and David Picciuto discuss their current projects, including David's boot-shaped go-kart and Bob's 'Woody' car conversion, while reflecting on the challenges of scaling their maker businesses. David Picciuto shares that he sold his 1967 Impala for $10,000 to a family member, freeing up garage space, while Bob Clagett details his decision to remain small-scale to preserve his creative autonomy and avoid the complexities of managing full-time staff. The hosts explore the trade-offs between growth and the 'peaceful life' of independent makers, with Bob noting he prefers contract help over hiring employees to maintain his workflow.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat#t=0) Introduction: Vacation and Health Updates
- [3:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat#t=222) David Picciuto: Boot Go-Kart and Plasma Cutter Video
- [10:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat#t=651) Bob Clagett: Woody Car Conversion and Materials
- [17:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat#t=1027) David Picciuto: Selling the 1967 Impala
- [36:11](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat#t=2171) Scaling Discussion: Growth vs. Solitude
- [55:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat#t=3314) Hiring Challenges and Management Styles
- [1:02:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat#t=3742) The Value of Solitude and Future Plans
- [1:04:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2025-07-11-489-pet-the-cat#t=3842) Picks of the Week: Emily Baker and Flatlander Tech

## Topics

- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Hiring & workforce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/hiring-and-workforce)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Titebond (material)
- West System (material)
- Thixotropic (material)
- Eastwood (company)
- Emily Baker (other)
- Flatlander Tech (other)
- HBO (product)

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- [25: Q&A](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2017-03-30-25-q-a) (Thoroughly Considered)

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