# 437: This is a terrible thing to say…

- Show: [Making It](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it)
- Published: 2024-04-12
- Length: 1h 03m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2024-04-12-437-this-is-a-terrible-thing-to-say
- Listen: https://making-it-with-jimmy-diresta-bob-clagett-and-david-picciuto.castos.com/episodes/437-this-is-a-terrible-thing-to-say

## Summary

Jimmy Diresta, Bob Clagett, and David Picciuto discuss the immersive design of Disney World, the infrastructure behind established artists like Frank Stella and Jeff Koons, and the ethics of studio assistants. David Picciuto details the regulatory hurdles and packaging challenges of selling a small-batch wood finish to Patreon subscribers, while Jimmy Diresta shares updates on restoring a vintage bandsaw and working on body filler for a car project.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2024-04-12-437-this-is-a-terrible-thing-to-say#t=0) Introduction and Disney World Design
- [11:13](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2024-04-12-437-this-is-a-terrible-thing-to-say#t=673) Frank Stella's Studio and the Artist's Infrastructure
- [17:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2024-04-12-437-this-is-a-terrible-thing-to-say#t=1066) Studio Assistants and the 'Tortured Artist' Myth
- [32:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2024-04-12-437-this-is-a-terrible-thing-to-say#t=1978) David Picciuto's Wood Finish Launch and Hazmat Shipping
- [41:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2024-04-12-437-this-is-a-terrible-thing-to-say#t=2486) Jimmy Diresta's Bandsaw Restoration and Car Bodywork
- [53:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2024-04-12-437-this-is-a-terrible-thing-to-say#t=3195) Patreon Shoutouts and Creative Recommendations

## Topics

- [Packaging design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/packaging-design)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists, early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Frank Stella (other)
- Jeff Koons (other)
- Disney World (other)
- Corridor Crew (other)
- Michael Jamin (other)
- Richard Avedon (other)
- Bondo (other)

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- [72: All Roads Lead to a Heat Sealed Pouch](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-09-22-72-all-roads-lead-to-a-heat-sealed-pouch) (Thoroughly Considered)
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- [71: Glue Flange](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-08-18-71-glue-flange) (Thoroughly Considered)

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