# Episode 303: How am I gonna pay for that?

- Show: [Making It](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it)
- Published: 2021-04-16
- Length: 1h 10m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that
- Listen: https://making-it-with-jimmy-diresta-bob-clagett-and-david-picciuto.castos.com/episodes/episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that

## Summary

Jimmy Diresta, Bob Clagett, and David Picciuto discuss strategies for managing the overwhelming pressure of large-scale physical projects and financial stress. Diresta details his experience producing a TV show, including logistical hurdles with United Rentals and tools like Shop Bot and DeWalt, while using compartmentalization to handle scope creep. Clagett and Picciuto share personal anecdotes about overcoming debt, using debit cards to avoid credit traps, and finding mental relief through running and escapism. The conversation emphasizes the importance of paying off debt, managing lists, and finishing abandoned projects to reduce long-term anxiety.

## Chapters

- [0:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that#t=1) Introduction: TV Production Logistics and Scope Creep
- [11:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that#t=663) Shop Bot Delivery and United Rentals Issues
- [14:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that#t=866) Clagett's Hi-Fi Speaker Project and Go-Kart Racing
- [19:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that#t=1186) Picciuto's Kitchen Renovation and CAD Integration
- [32:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that#t=1948) Managing Overwhelm: Compartmentalization and Money
- [47:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that#t=2875) Debt, Credit Cards, and Financial Freedom
- [57:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that#t=3420) Mental Health: Running, Escapism, and Habits
- [1:02:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2021-04-16-episode-303-how-am-i-gonna-pay-for-that#t=3725) Patreon Shoutouts and Project Completion

## Topics

- [Starting a product company](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/starting-a-company)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Design for manufacturing & NPI](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/design-for-manufacturing)
- [PCB design & layout](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pcb-design)
- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Founder wellbeing](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/founder-wellbeing)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- DeWalt (other)
- Shop Bot (tool)
- United Rentals (other)
- CSS Audio (other)
- McMaster-Carr (other)
- Fusion (tool)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [10 Years of How I Built This:  A Decade of Innovation, Risk and Reinvention](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2026-10-05-10-years-of-how-i-built-this-a-decade-of-innovation-risk-and-reinvention) (How I Built This)
- [S4E39 Kyle Valiton | Common Pitfalls of Startups, Dealing With Stress, Setting Budgets](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2023-10-13-s4e39-kyle-valiton-common-pitfalls-of-startups-dealing-with-stress-setting-budge) (Being an Engineer)
- [Ep. 9 - Time Management](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/open-hardware-manufacturing-podcast/2023-11-23-ep-9-time-management) (Open Hardware Manufacturing Podcast)
- [33: Year-End Q&A](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2017-12-21-33-year-end-q-a) (Thoroughly Considered)
- [47: Seems Like a Nice Way to Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2019-01-16-47-seems-like-a-nice-way-to-live) (Thoroughly Considered)

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