# Episode 203: So and So Johnson

- Show: [Making It](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it)
- Published: 2019-02-22
- Length: 1h 01m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson
- Listen: https://making-it-with-jimmy-diresta-bob-clagett-and-david-picciuto.castos.com/episodes/episode-203-so-and-so-johnson

## Summary

Jimmy Diresta, Bob Clagett, and David Picciuto discuss the difficulty of deciding when to scrap a project and restart, citing Diresta's failed brass belt buckle casting and printing press adjustments. They explore the psychological attachment to work-in-progress and the importance of having the courage to change course, using the Fire Festival documentary as an example of ignoring failure signals. The hosts also share recent maker projects, including Clagett's metal sculpture class and Picciuto's screen printing experiments, while highlighting tools like Bantam Tools and AI-driven safety tech from Smarter Every Day.

## Chapters

- [0:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=1) Introduction: So and So Johnson and the Ghost Weasel
- [4:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=289) Diresta's Brass Casting and Printing Press Struggles
- [8:38](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=518) Clagett's Metal Sculpture and Picciuto's Screen Printing
- [15:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=909) The Dilemma of Filming Simple Projects
- [24:11](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=1451) The Value of Quick, Simple Videos
- [32:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=1951) Knowing When to Scrap a Plan: The Belt Buckle
- [39:30](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=2370) Scrapped Jigs and the Fire Festival Documentary
- [46:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=2788) Detachment and the 'Make the First One Bad' Rule
- [56:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2019-02-22-episode-203-so-and-so-johnson#t=3375) Sponsor Reads and Maker Recommendations

## Topics

- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)
- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)
- [Design for manufacturing & NPI](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/design-for-manufacturing)
- [Creator business](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/creator-business)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)

## Most relevant to

founders before launch

## Mentioned

- GoPro (tool)
- Fusion (tool)
- Bantam Tools (company)
- Smarter Every Day (company)
- Waser (company)
- Jenny Swiss (other)
- Bri Pettis (other)
- Destin Sandlin (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [119: Planning for the Unexpected in Product Design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2022-03-23-119-planning-for-the-unexpected-in-product-design) (Product Startup)
- [186: Sleeping on the Factory Floor](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-02-09-186-sleeping-on-the-factory-floor) (Embedded.fm)
- [3: Onward](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2015-10-28-3-onward) (Thoroughly Considered)
- [Fail culture in product design - IDology #16](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/idology/2024-02-20-fail-culture-in-product-design-idology-16) (IDology)
- [056: Mistakes, Opportunities, & Feedback for a New Product](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2020-10-21-056-mistakes-opportunities-feedback-for-a-new-product) (Product Startup)

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