# Episode 192: Different or better with Evan & Katelyn

- Show: [Making It](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it)
- Published: 2018-11-23
- Length: 1h 00m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn
- Listen: https://making-it-with-jimmy-diresta-bob-clagett-and-david-picciuto.castos.com/episodes/episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn

## Summary

Jimmy Diresta, Bob Clagett, and David Picciuto are joined by guests Evan and Katelyn to discuss the concept of 'different vs. better' in product design and content creation. The group explores how innovation often prioritizes novelty over utility, citing examples like Samsung's foldable phones, rotary engines, and Evan's ping pong table project. They also share personal anecdotes about patent challenges, YouTube algorithm dynamics, and upcoming maker events.

## Chapters

- [0:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=1) Introduction and Resin Ornaments
- [2:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=162) ThinkerCon and Maker Challenges
- [8:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=515) Upcoming Classes and Investor Consultation
- [11:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=680) Filson Store Canoe Saga
- [15:45](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=945) Tips Videos and the Origin of Spike
- [20:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=1252) Different vs. Better: Engines and Phones
- [34:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=2043) Patents, Knockoffs, and Gurgling Guts
- [40:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=2442) YouTube Performance and Long-Form Content
- [51:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2018-11-23-episode-192-different-or-better-with-evan-katelyn#t=3063) What We're Watching

## Topics

- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)
- [Intellectual property](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/intellectual-property)
- [Marketing & brand](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/marketing-and-brand)
- [Creator business](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/creator-business)
- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- Filson (company)
- ThinkerCon (other)
- Samsung (company)
- Gurgling Guts (product)
- Andy Mation (other)
- The Try Guys (other)
- Barnaby Dixon (other)
- French Guy Cooking (other)
- Modern Rogue (other)

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- [56: Are We About To Do a Gift Guide Episode?](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2019-12-04-56-are-we-about-to-do-a-gift-guide-episode) (Thoroughly Considered)
- [126: Ten Years](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-09-11-126-ten-years) (Thoroughly Considered)
- [50: Putting All Your Eggs in the Launch Basket](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2019-04-22-50-putting-all-your-eggs-in-the-launch-basket) (Thoroughly Considered)
- [Live From HIBT Summit: Payal Kadakia, Tristan Walker, and Perry Chen on Innovation](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2021-07-22-live-from-hibt-summit-payal-kadakia-tristan-walker-and-perry-chen-on-innovation) (How I Built This)
- [Is This A Show?](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2015-07-02-is-this-a-show) (The Amp Hour)

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