# Are You Even Prepared to Run a Lights Out Shop? Ep #8

- Show: [Lights Out](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lights-out)
- Published: 2024-11-20
- Length: 41m
- Episode: 8
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lights-out/2024-11-20-are-you-even-prepared-to-run-a-lights-out-shop-ep-8
- Listen: https://8819970d-2c51-481c-b08a-4d2a806885b2.libsyn.com/are-you-even-prepared-to-run-a-lights-out-shop-ep-8

## Summary

Host Nick Golner is joined by Mike Payne of Moseys Production and Paul Van Metre of ProShop ERP to discuss the prerequisites for running a 'lights out' machine shop. They emphasize that process stability is the foundation of automation, warning that automating an unstable process only multiplies waste. The conversation covers critical operational details such as chip management, accurate job costing for unattended runs, and the necessity of rigorous training and preventative maintenance programs.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lights-out/2024-11-20-are-you-even-prepared-to-run-a-lights-out-shop-ep-8#t=0) Introduction and Leadership Spotlight
- [13:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lights-out/2024-11-20-are-you-even-prepared-to-run-a-lights-out-shop-ep-8#t=812) The Necessity of Process Stability
- [20:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lights-out/2024-11-20-are-you-even-prepared-to-run-a-lights-out-shop-ep-8#t=1202) Chip Management Challenges and Solutions
- [23:25](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lights-out/2024-11-20-are-you-even-prepared-to-run-a-lights-out-shop-ep-8#t=1405) Cutting Tool and Work Holding Management
- [26:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lights-out/2024-11-20-are-you-even-prepared-to-run-a-lights-out-shop-ep-8#t=1560) Job Costing and Margin Strategy
- [34:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lights-out/2024-11-20-are-you-even-prepared-to-run-a-lights-out-shop-ep-8#t=2043) Training and Preventative Maintenance

## Topics

- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)
- [Hiring & workforce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/hiring-and-workforce)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- ProShop ERP (tool)
- NetSuite (tool)
- Robo Job USA (company)
- Turn Assist (product)
- DMG Mori (company)
- Oscar Mike (company)
- Moseys Production (company)
- Triad (company)
- The Checklist Manifesto (other)

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- [Working On the Business, Not In the Business, w/ Paul van Metre](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-manufacturing-executive/2021-05-11-working-on-the-business-not-in-the-business-w-paul-van-metre) (The Manufacturing Executive)
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