# Moving Past the Pilot Phase in IoT and AI | HiveMQ's Barry Libert | Internet of Things Podcast

- Show: [IoT For All Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast)
- Published: 2025-12-16
- Length: 19m
- Episode: 389
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing
- Listen: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/iot-for-all/episodes/Moving-Past-the-Pilot-Phase-in-IoT-and-AI--HiveMQs-Barry-Libert--Internet-of-Things-Podcast-e3cei7p

## Summary

Barry Libert, Chairman and CEO of HiveMQ, discusses the critical challenge of moving industrial IoT projects from pilot to scale, arguing that companies must view themselves as data streaming entities rather than product manufacturers. He emphasizes that the primary hurdle is often poor data quality and a lack of alignment across technical, strategic, and economic leadership tiers, rather than the AI models themselves. Libert outlines how HiveMQ has evolved from a connectivity tool to an industrial AI platform, enabling agentic workflows that allow organizations to trade data sets for operational efficiency and predictive maintenance.

## Chapters

- [0:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=4) Introduction: Barry Libert and HiveMQ
- [1:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=66) The Pilot Phase Hurdle and Data Streaming Mindset
- [4:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=280) Leadership Alignment and Knowing Your Data
- [6:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=402) Data Quality vs. Model Quality
- [7:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=478) Real-Time Visibility and Trading Data Sets
- [9:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=592) Practical AI Use Cases: Purchasing and Maintenance
- [11:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=661) HiveMQ's Shift from Connectivity to AI Platform
- [12:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=774) Platform Strategy and Customer Obsession
- [15:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-12-16-moving-past-the-pilot-phase-in-iot-and-ai-hivemqs-barry-libert-internet-of-thing#t=922) Leadership Mindset and Future Outlook

## Topics

- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- HiveMQ (company)
- Amazon (company)
- Fixed Software (company)
- Rockwell (company)
- Siemens (company)
- McKinsey (company)
- Citadel (company)
- Pulse (product)

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