# Software Validation and Testing in IoT | Doppelio's Gaurav Johri | Internet of Things Podcast

- Show: [IoT For All Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast)
- Published: 2025-09-16
- Length: 21m
- Episode: 384
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things
- Listen: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/iot-for-all/episodes/Software-Validation-and-Testing-in-IoT--Doppelios-Gaurav-Johri--Internet-of-Things-Podcast-e389v5b

## Summary

Gaurav Johri, co-founder and CEO of Doppelio, explains why software validation is critical for connected products as value shifts from hardware to cloud and edge software. He details how Doppelio uses device virtualization to create 'Doppels' (digital twins) that allow enterprises to test at scale without physical devices, overcoming the limitations of custom simulators. Johri discusses the integration of physical and virtual labs, the role of intelligent automation in CI/CD pipelines, and the ROI of early defect detection in industries like automotive and medical devices.

## Chapters

- [0:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=4) Introduction: Gaurav Johri and Doppelio
- [1:13](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=73) The Importance of Software Validation in IoT
- [4:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=250) Virtualization vs. Physical Devices and Simulators
- [6:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=378) Real-World Examples: Fortune 100 and Auto OEM
- [8:45](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=525) Physical vs. Virtual Testing Labs
- [10:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=636) Limitations of Simulator-Based Approaches
- [12:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=760) Enabling Rapid, Scalable Validation
- [14:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=863) Intelligent Automation in DevOps and CI/CD
- [16:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=969) ROI of Early Software Validation
- [17:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=1072) Advice for Modernizing IoT Testing
- [19:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things#t=1181) Future of IoT Testing with AI, Edge, and 5G

## Topics

- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Test & measurement](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/test-and-measurement)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Doppelio (company)
- Mindtree (company)
- Onmobile (company)
- Infosys (company)
- AutomotiveIQ (other)
- IoT Tech Expo (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Where Software Meets Silicon: A Digital Twin Playbook](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2026-09-04-where-software-meets-silicon-a-digital-twin-playbook) (EE Times Current)
- [500: Nerding Out About the Ducks](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2025-05-02-500-nerding-out-about-the-ducks) (Embedded.fm)
- [System Designer Lets You Try Every Part with Michael Gielda](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2025-03-24-system-designer-lets-you-try-every-part-with-michael-gielda) (The Amp Hour)
- [How to Approach Verification and Validation for Cloud Software](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-04-15-how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software) (Global Medical Device Podcast)
- [Embedded Trends for a Connected World](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2023-02-03-embedded-trends-for-a-connected-world) (EE Times Current)

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