# Decentralizing the Energy Grid | Evergen's Nick McGrath | Internet of Things Podcast

- Show: [IoT For All Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast)
- Published: 2022-11-15
- Length: 23m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast
- Listen: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/iot-for-all/episodes/Decentralizing-the-Energy-Grid--Evergens-Nick-McGrath--Internet-of-Things-Podcast-e28bk22

## Summary

Nick McGrath, CTO of Evergen, explains how IoT software optimizes the transition to a decentralized energy grid by aggregating data from rooftop solar, batteries, and inverters. Evergen, formed through a collaboration between AMP Capital and CSIRO, shifted from manufacturing physical IoT devices to a software-only model in 2019 to scale faster and integrate with various OEM APIs. The company focuses on managing safety, predictive maintenance, and security (including ISO 27001 accreditation) across a fragmented ecosystem of hardware manufacturers to provide energy retailers with a complete grid view.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast#t=0) Introduction: Decentralized Energy and Evergen's Mission
- [2:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast#t=129) Evergen's Origin: CSIRO, AMP Capital, and the Hardware-to-Software Pivot
- [8:57](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast#t=537) IoT Use Cases: Asset Control, Telemetry, and Safety
- [10:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast#t=649) Hardware-Software Partnerships and API Integration
- [13:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast#t=801) Integrating Legacy Systems and Evolving Manufacturer Roadmaps
- [15:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast#t=914) Political Challenges and Industry Adoption
- [16:19](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast#t=979) Security Posture: ISO 27001 and Breach Response
- [20:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2022-11-15-decentralizing-the-energy-grid-evergens-nick-mcgrath-internet-of-things-podcast#t=1228) Future Outlook: Scale, EVs, and Hydrogen

## Topics

- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Evergen (company)
- AMP Capital (company)
- CSIRO (company)
- ISO 27001 (other)

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