# AI that can be your second brain with Bethany Bongiorno and Imran Chaudhri of Humane

- Show: [How I Built This](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this)
- Published: 2024-03-14
- Length: 45m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu

## Summary

Imran Chaudhri and Bethany Bongiorno, former Apple designers who worked on the iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch, explain their decision to leave the tech giant to found Humane and build the screenless AI Pin. They discuss the engineering challenges of miniaturization, integrating multiple radios, and managing heat in a small form factor, while prioritizing privacy by avoiding always-listening wake words. The founders describe the device's functionality, including its camera, laser projector, and cloud-based 'second brain' features, and outline a business model focused on hardware sales and services rather than a traditional app store.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu#t=0) Introduction: Humane AI Pin and U.S. Bank Sponsor Read
- [3:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu#t=189) Imran Chaudhri and Bethany Bongiorno's History at Apple
- [10:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu#t=608) Leaving Apple and Ideating on AI and Women's Health
- [16:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu#t=961) Designing the Screenless AI Pin and Miniaturization Challenges
- [26:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu#t=1566) Motivation: Reducing Screen Addiction and Promoting Presence
- [30:50](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu#t=1850) Demonstrating the AI Pin: Voice Interface and 'Second Brain' Features
- [36:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu#t=2203) Privacy, Data Ownership, and Hardware Transparency
- [41:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2024-03-14-ai-that-can-be-your-second-brain-with-bethany-bongiorno-and-imran-chaudhri-of-hu#t=2493) AI Regulation, Business Model, and Future Vision

## Topics

- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Starting a product company](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/starting-a-company)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Humane (company)
- AI Pin (product)
- Apple (company)
- iPhone (product)
- iPad (product)
- Apple Watch (product)
- macOS 10 (product)
- FaceTime (product)
- iMessage (product)
- Open AI (company)
- Google (company)
- Gemini (product)
- ChatGPT (product)

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