# Vita Coco: Michael Kirban

- Show: [How I Built This](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this)
- Published: 2020-08-03
- Length: 1h 10m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban

## Summary

Michael Kirban, co-founder of Vita Coco, recounts launching the coconut water brand in 2004 after meeting partner Ira Liran in Brazil. Kirban details the brutal 'coconut water wars' with competitor Zico, including sabotage tactics and the strategic pivot to 'never from concentrate' after Coca-Cola invested in Zico. He explains how securing investments from celebrities like Madonna and a distribution deal with Red Bull China allowed Vita Coco to dominate the market and eventually become profitable.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban#t=0) Introduction: Michael Kirban and Vita Coco
- [4:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban#t=266) Kirban's Background and Early Ventures
- [19:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban#t=1181) Meeting Ira Liran and the Brazil Trip
- [27:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban#t=1638) Launching Vita Coco and the FDA Import Crisis
- [37:53](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban#t=2273) The Coconut Water Wars with Zico
- [52:38](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban#t=3158) Differentiation and Celebrity Investment
- [59:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban#t=3555) Scaling, Lawsuits, and Red Bull China Deal
- [1:07:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2020-08-03-vita-coco-michael-kirban#t=4025) Pandemic Impact and Entrepreneurial Advice

## Topics

- [Starting a product company](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/starting-a-company)
- [Retail, wholesale & distribution](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/retail-and-distribution)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Fundraising & investors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fundraising)
- [Marketing & brand](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/marketing-and-brand)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies, companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Vita Coco (product)
- Zico (product)
- Coca-Cola (company)
- Red Bull China (company)
- Tetra Pak (company)
- FDA (other)
- Madonna (other)
- Naked Juice (product)
- Gatorade (product)
- Vitaminwater (product)

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