# The Future of Energy: Generating Sustainable Natural Gas with Casey Handmer of Terraform Industries Part 2

- Show: [Hardware to Save a Planet](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet)
- Published: 2024-12-19
- Length: 37m
- Episode: 68
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te
- Listen: https://podcasts.fame.so/e/rn7y3l0n-the-future-of-energy-casey-handmer

## Summary

Casey Handmer, founder of Terraform Industries, explains how his company produces sustainable natural gas by vertically integrating solar power, direct air capture, and methanation to minimize capital expenditure. He details the use of calcium hydroxide for CO2 capture and argues that in-house manufacturing is essential to strip unnecessary features and control costs in immature markets. Handmer also discusses the business viability of solar synthetic fuels, the role of IRA subsidies like 45V, and the regulatory hurdles facing solar deployment in the United States.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te#t=0) Introduction: Vertical Integration and Low Capex Strategy
- [2:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te#t=163) In-house Manufacturing vs. Off-the-Shelf Components
- [2:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te#t=163) Direct Air Capture using Calcium Hydroxide
- [11:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te#t=706) Rapid Iteration and Cost Reduction via Ziegler Process
- [14:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te#t=847) Solar Economics and the Inflation Reduction Act
- [24:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te#t=1476) Incumbent Oil Industry Reception and Regulatory Hurdles
- [28:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te#t=1727) Terraform Industries Roadmap and Future Phases
- [33:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hardware-to-save-a-planet/2024-12-19-the-future-of-energy-generating-sustainable-natural-gas-with-casey-handmer-of-te#t=1985) Climate Optimism and High-Leverage Opportunities

## Topics

- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Design for manufacturing & NPI](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/design-for-manufacturing)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Terraform Industries (company)
- Sunsets (company)

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