# How to Approach Verification and Validation for Cloud Software

- Show: [Global Medical Device Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast)
- Published: 2020-04-15
- Length: 39m
- Episode: 142
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-04-15-how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software
- Listen: https://podcast.greenlight.guru/episode/how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software

## Summary

John Spear, host of the Global Medical Device Podcast, interviews Brad Graves, Principal Project Manager at The RND Group, to clarify verification and validation (V&V) strategies for cloud-based medical device software. They distinguish verification (designing the product correctly) from validation (designing the correct product) and discuss how cloud architectures, such as containerization with Docker, allow for automated testing despite frequent vendor updates. The conversation highlights that while cloud software offers scalability and portability, it requires rigorous change management, including monitoring release notes and leveraging vendor-provided validation evidence to avoid redundant re-validation efforts.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-04-15-how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software#t=0) Introduction: John Spear and Brad Graves from The RND Group
- [3:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-04-15-how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software#t=238) Defining Verification vs. Validation in Medical Software
- [8:44](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-04-15-how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software#t=524) Determining Which Software Requires Validation
- [16:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-04-15-how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software#t=996) The Shift from Locked-Down Systems to Cloud Software
- [19:11](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-04-15-how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software#t=1151) Strategies for Verifying Cloud Software: Containerization and Automation
- [27:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-04-15-how-to-approach-verification-and-validation-for-cloud-software#t=1641) Validating Third-Party Cloud Tools and Leveraging Vendor Evidence

## Topics

- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)
- [PCB design & layout](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pcb-design)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Quality & yield](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/quality-and-yield)
- [Certification & compliance](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/certification-and-compliance)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- The RND Group (company)
- Greenlight Guru (company)
- Docker (tool)
- FDA (other)
- IEC 62304 (other)

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- [Software Validation and Testing in IoT | Doppelio's Gaurav Johri | Internet of Things Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2025-09-16-software-validation-and-testing-in-iot-doppelios-gaurav-johri-internet-of-things) (IoT For All Podcast)
- [Version Control Techniques](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-02-03-version-control-techniques) (The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast)
- [134 - ISO62304, Software Development Process, SaMD, Closed Loop Systems, Complexities with Cloud and Better Software in MedTech with Richard Koch](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/lets-combinate/2024-05-01-134-iso62304-software-development-process-samd-closed-loop-systems-complexities) (Let's Combinate)
- [Dakota Welker | User Needs, Design Inputs, Verification & Validation](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2026-09-25-dakota-welker-user-needs-design-inputs-verification-validation) (Being an Engineer)

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