# Navigating Tariff Challenges with Cofactr Co-Founder Philip Gulley: The Future of Procurement

- Show: [EMS@C-LEVEL](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level)
- Published: 2025-03-28
- Length: 12m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of

## Summary

Philip Gulley, Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer of Cofactr, discusses how the company helps manufacturers navigate tariff uncertainty and supply chain instability through practical AI-driven procurement solutions. He explains that Cofactr focuses on data normalization, landed cost calculation, and proactive customs tracking to prevent double-paying tariffs and manage duty drawbacks. Gulley highlights the industry's current struggle with disparate data systems and the need for accurate foundations before achieving integrated enterprise-wide AI insights. He also shares Cofactr's rapid growth from a small startup to a 40+ person company opening a new West Coast facility.

## Chapters

- [0:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of#t=8) Introduction and Cofactr's Mission
- [0:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of#t=58) Navigating Tariff Uncertainty and Clarity
- [2:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of#t=134) Documentation, Traceability, and Duty Drawbacks
- [3:44](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of#t=224) Proactive Customs Tracking and De Minimis Risks
- [5:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of#t=301) Practical AI for Procurement and ROI
- [7:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of#t=432) Landed Cost Analysis and Scenario Planning
- [7:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of#t=479) Data Normalization and Future AI Integration
- [10:50](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ems-c-level/2025-03-28-navigating-tariff-challenges-with-cofactr-co-founder-philip-gulley-the-future-of#t=650) Cofactr's Growth and New West Coast Facility

## Topics

- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Cofactr (company)
- Palantir (company)
- APEX 2025 (other)
- Creative Electron (company)
- Koh Young (company)

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