# 468: Designed to Kill All Humans

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2024-01-12
- Length: 56m
- Episode: 468
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans
- Listen: https://embedded.fm/episodes/468

## Summary

Anders Nielsen, a Mac expert at Aalborg University and creator of the 65uino kit, joins Embedded.fm to discuss the enduring appeal of the 6502 processor. Nielsen explains how the 6502's simplicity and low cost revolutionized computing in the 1970s and details the architecture of his 65uino board, which uses a 6507 CPU, ROM, and RIOT chip to teach embedded concepts. The conversation covers the history of 8-bit processors, the challenges of sourcing salvaged chips, and the strategic trade-offs between using overpowered microcontrollers for flexibility versus specialized chips for cost in product development.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans#t=6) Introduction and Guest Background
- [4:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans#t=286) The History and Appeal of the 6502
- [13:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans#t=782) Architecture of the 65uino Board
- [17:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans#t=1032) Programming and Memory Management
- [24:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans#t=1440) Sourcing and Testing Salvaged Chips
- [29:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans#t=1749) Educational Goals and Processor History
- [44:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans#t=2641) MCU Selection Strategy: Flexibility vs Cost
- [53:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2024-01-12-468-designed-to-kill-all-humans#t=3181) 6502 IP Status and Kit Sales

## Topics

- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- 6502 (chip)
- 65uino (product)
- 6507 (chip)
- RIOT (chip)
- cc65 (tool)
- Arduino Uno (product)
- ATmega328 (chip)
- 8051 (chip)
- Z80 (chip)
- Raspberry Pi Pico (product)
- Memfault (company)
- imania.dk (other)

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