# 342: That Girl's Brain

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2020-08-27
- Length: 57m
- Episode: 342
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-08-27-342-that-girls-brain
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/342-that-girls-brain

## Summary

Jessie Frazelle, Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer at Oxide Computer, explains how the company builds open-source, rack-scale servers for enterprises by adopting hyperscaler-style hardware design. She details the decision to open-source firmware and hardware to eliminate vendor finger-pointing and security vulnerabilities inherent in proprietary BMCs. The discussion covers their use of Rust for firmware and control plane software, power efficiency metrics like PUE, and the challenges of deploying high-density compute in traditional colocation environments.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-08-27-342-that-girls-brain#t=6) Introduction: Jessie Frazelle and Oxide Computer Company
- [4:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-08-27-342-that-girls-brain#t=287) Hyperscaler Infrastructure and Rack-Scale Servers
- [12:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-08-27-342-that-girls-brain#t=778) Solving On-Premises Pain Points and Vendor Disputes
- [19:48](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-08-27-342-that-girls-brain#t=1188) Power Efficiency, PUE, and Carbon Footprints
- [33:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-08-27-342-that-girls-brain#t=1981) Open Source Firmware and BMC Security
- [40:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-08-27-342-that-girls-brain#t=2447) Using Rust for Firmware and Control Plane
- [45:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-08-27-342-that-girls-brain#t=2749) Secure Boot, Root of Trust, and Long-Term Support

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Sustainability & circular products](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sustainability-and-circularity)
- [Starting a product company](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/starting-a-company)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Oxide Computer Company (company)
- Facebook (company)
- Microsoft (company)
- Google (company)
- Dell (company)
- AMD (chip)
- ARM (chip)
- RISC-V (chip)
- Open Compute Project (other)
- Open19 (other)
- OpenBMC (other)
- Rust (other)
- Go (other)
- Docker (product)
- BMC (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Shipping the first Oxide rack: Your questions answered!](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2023-07-04-shipping-the-first-oxide-rack-your-questions-answered) (Oxide and Friends)
- [Open Source Firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-10-31-open-source-firmware) (Oxide and Friends)
- [Holistic Engineering with Robert Mustacchi](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-01-23-holistic-engineering-with-robert-mustacchi) (Oxide and Friends)
- [Finding Hardware Flaws with Laura Abbott](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-05-23-finding-hardware-flaws-with-laura-abbott) (The Amp Hour)
- [Potpourri: Product, Platform, Paravirtualization](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-09-06-potpourri-product-platform-paravirtualization) (Oxide and Friends)

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