# 291: General Drip and Tinkle

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2019-06-13
- Length: 1h 24m
- Episode: 291
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-06-13-291-general-drip-and-tinkle
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/291-general-drip-and-tinkle

## Summary

Karl Auerbach of InterWorking Labs explains the technical mechanics of the Domain Name System (DNS), including the distinction between fully qualified names and local search suffixes, the role of root servers, and the implementation of DNSSEC for security. He details the specific operational failure of the embedded.fm team, who lost their .fm domain due to a registrar (Hover) error and a lack of grace period, requiring intervention from the .fm registry to recover it. Auerbach also discusses the governance structure of ICANN, the arbitrary nature of domain expiration, and his ongoing 'History of the Internet' project, which archives oral histories from early internet pioneers.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-06-13-291-general-drip-and-tinkle#t=6) Introduction: Karl Auerbach and InterWorking Labs
- [7:17](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-06-13-291-general-drip-and-tinkle#t=437) DNS Mechanics: Fully Qualified Names and Root Servers
- [19:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-06-13-291-general-drip-and-tinkle#t=1175) DNS vs. Attribute Search and Anycast
- [27:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-06-13-291-general-drip-and-tinkle#t=1630) The embedded.fm Domain Recovery Story
- [40:24](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-06-13-291-general-drip-and-tinkle#t=2424) Domain Expiration, ICANN, and Registries
- [1:00:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-06-13-291-general-drip-and-tinkle#t=3637) ICANN Governance, Stakeholderism, and Privacy
- [1:12:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-06-13-291-general-drip-and-tinkle#t=4357) The History of the Internet Project

## Topics

- [Wireless & RF](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/wireless-and-rf)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- InterWorking Labs (company)
- ICANN (other)
- Hover (company)
- DNSSEC (other)
- Anycast (other)
- ICMP (other)
- MAC address (other)
- ARP (other)
- Fast Flux (other)
- Redemption Period (other)
- Whois (other)
- History of the Internet Project (other)

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