# 277: The Sport of Kings

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2019-02-08
- Length: 1h 16m
- Episode: 277
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-02-08-277-the-sport-of-kings
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/277-the-sport-of-kings

## Summary

Jie Qi, founder of Chibitronics and PatentPandas.org, explains how her work creating paper-based electronics and circuit stickers led to unexpected patent conflicts. She details the process of using conductive tape and stickers to build accessible hardware for education and storytelling. Qi discusses the legal realities of open-source hardware, including a specific instance where a backer patented her LED sticker product and Google filed patents on concepts discussed during a job interview. She outlines strategies for protecting prior art and the high costs associated with patent litigation for individual creators.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-02-08-277-the-sport-of-kings#t=6) Introduction and Lightning Round
- [5:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-02-08-277-the-sport-of-kings#t=321) Chibitronics and Paper Electronics
- [14:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-02-08-277-the-sport-of-kings#t=877) Origins of Paper Circuits and Pop-up Books
- [23:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-02-08-277-the-sport-of-kings#t=1388) Google ATAP Interview and Patent Issues
- [30:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-02-08-277-the-sport-of-kings#t=1804) Crowdfunding Backer Patent and PatentPandas
- [41:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-02-08-277-the-sport-of-kings#t=2514) Prior Art, IPR Costs, and Legal Strategy
- [1:06:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2019-02-08-277-the-sport-of-kings#t=3980) International Patent Law and Future Resources

## Topics

- [Intellectual property](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/intellectual-property)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Crowdfunding & preorders](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/crowdfunding)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies, founders before launch

## Mentioned

- Chibitronics (company)
- PatentPandas.org (other)
- Google (company)
- ATAP (company)
- Little Bits (product)
- MIT Media Lab (company)
- Harvard Law School (company)
- Berkman Klein Center (company)
- Prior Art Archive (other)
- Patents.StackExchange (other)
- Archive.org (other)
- USPTO (company)
- Copper tape (material)
- Z-tape (material)
- LED stickers (product)

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