# 245: Tell Me How People Hurt You

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2018-05-10
- Length: 1h 31m
- Episode: 245
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-05-10-245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you

## Summary

Stephen Craig and Parker Dillmann of Macrofab join Alicia and Christopher White to discuss the friction between hardware and software engineers. They debate the definition of embedded systems, the merits of PIC vs. ARM microcontrollers, and the critical importance of reading schematics and using standardized footprints to avoid costly design errors.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-05-10-245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you#t=6) Introduction and Podcast Origins
- [11:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-05-10-245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you#t=667) Hardware vs Software Communication
- [16:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-05-10-245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you#t=996) Defining Embedded Systems and FPGA
- [23:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-05-10-245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you#t=1398) Microcontroller Preferences: PIC vs ARM
- [50:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-05-10-245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you#t=3041) Schematic Reading and Net Naming
- [1:09:24](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-05-10-245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you#t=4164) Footprint Libraries and Design Standards
- [1:22:24](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-05-10-245-tell-me-how-people-hurt-you#t=4944) Managing Hardware Changes and Cost

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [EDA & CAD tools](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/eda-and-cad-tools)
- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Macrofab (company)
- PIC (chip)
- ARM (chip)
- Silicon Labs (company)
- EFM8 (chip)
- Arduino (tool)
- Raspberry Pi (chip)
- KiCad (tool)
- DigiKey (company)
- DipTrace (tool)

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- [Why isn't this working?](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2020-02-14-why-isnt-this-working) (The Amp Hour)
- [Vertically Integrated Design Engineering](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-08-05-vertically-integrated-design-engineering) (The Amp Hour)
- [Crossovers and Call-ins](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-01-08-crossovers-and-call-ins) (The Amp Hour)
- [The Spark Gap - Episode 1](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-spark-gap/2014-06-16-the-spark-gap-episode-1) (The Spark Gap)
- [This Is Just A Tribute](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2020-08-10-this-is-just-a-tribute) (The Amp Hour)

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