# 243: Pick a Good One

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2018-04-27
- Length: 1h 00m
- Episode: 243
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/243-pick-a-good-one

## Summary

Michael Barr, CTO of the Barr Group, discusses the results of their annual survey of embedded systems designers, which gathered 1,703 responses from experienced professionals. He highlights alarming statistics regarding security practices, noting that 22% of engineers working on internet-connected devices do not even list security as a requirement, and many fail to use basic protections like encryption or static analysis. The conversation also explores the industry's persistent reliance on C, the surprising lack of version control and bug tracking among some developers, and the educational gaps that leave hardware-trained engineers unprepared for software quality processes.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=6) Introduction and Lightning Round
- [3:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=216) Survey Methodology and Longitudinal Data
- [12:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=756) Security Failures in Internet-Connected Devices
- [17:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=1034) Root Causes of Security Negligence in Startups
- [23:44](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=1424) The Persistence of C and the Rust Chicken-and-Egg Problem
- [28:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=1683) Lack of Version Control and Bug Tracking
- [32:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=1934) Educational Gaps and Hardware-to-Software Transitions
- [43:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=2607) Coding Standards and the Barr Group Standard
- [53:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-04-27-243-pick-a-good-one#t=3186) Career Path and Personal Background

## Topics

- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

established companies

## Mentioned

- Barr Group (company)
- Fluke (product)
- Arduino (product)
- PC Lint (tool)
- LDRA (tool)
- MISRA (other)
- DO 178 (other)
- GitHub (tool)

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