# 228: Pedantic or Andrantic

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2018-01-03
- Length: 1h 44m
- Episode: 228
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/228-pedantic-or-andrantic

## Summary

Chris Gamble, a developer advocate at Hologram, discusses the complexities of cellular IoT connectivity, explaining how his company simplifies the hardware, connectivity, and software stack for developers. Elecia White, author of 'Making Embedded Systems', and Chris White, firmware engineer at Fitbit, share their professional backgrounds and recent holiday gifts, including Moog and Teenage Engineering synthesizers, a J-Trace Pro debugger, and a HackRF software-defined radio. The hosts engage in a deep discussion on pedagogy, specifically the Dreyfus model of skill acquisition, and strategies for learning complex topics like computer vision and embedded software by using practical projects as hooks.

## Chapters

- [0:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=36) Introduction: Ambedded Crossover and Weather Updates
- [2:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=167) Chris Gamble and Hologram: Cellular IoT Connectivity
- [7:50](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=470) Elecia White and Chris White: Consulting and Fitbit
- [12:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=727) Holiday Gifts: Synths, Debuggers, and SDR Tools
- [27:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=1657) The Dreyfus Model and Teaching Adults
- [32:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=1940) Learning Strategies: The Blank Sheet Problem and Hooks
- [48:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=2921) 2018 Goals: Iteration, Experimentation, and Mental Health
- [1:05:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=3903) Listener Q&A: Cheaper/Faster Prototyping and Documentation
- [1:26:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic#t=5200) Books and Reading List: Nonfiction and Fiction

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Wireless & RF](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/wireless-and-rf)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)
- [PCB design & layout](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pcb-design)
- [Founder wellbeing](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/founder-wellbeing)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies, large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Hologram (company)
- Fitbit (company)
- Moog Werkstatt (product)
- Teenage Engineering (product)
- J-Trace Pro (tool)
- HackRF (tool)
- Great Scott Gadgets (company)
- KiCad (tool)
- Osh Park (company)
- Tindie (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Pedantic or Andrantic](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-01-03-pedantic-or-andrantic) (The Amp Hour)
- [Christmas Special](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2021-12-22-christmas-special) (The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast)
- [Work on it for 10 years...](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years) (The Amp Hour)
- [Why isn't this working?](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2020-02-14-why-isnt-this-working) (The Amp Hour)
- [Changing Course with Shawn Hymel](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2024-08-09-changing-course-with-shawn-hymel) (The Amp Hour)

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