# 222: Virtual Bunnie

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2017-11-10
- Length: 1h 01m
- Episode: 222
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-11-10-222-virtual-bunnie
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/222-virtual-bunnie

## Summary

Jonathan Beri, a product manager at Particle.io and former Googler, discusses his transition from mechanical engineering to computer science and product management, emphasizing the importance of building hardware projects to stay sharp. He details his experience contributing a chapter on robotics to the book 'JavaScript Robotics', highlighting the challenges of documenting code that relies on rapidly changing open-source libraries like Johnny-Five. Beri also shares insights on managing technical debt in engineering teams and the difficulties of bridging the gap between proof-of-concept and production in robotics using tools like ROS.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-11-10-222-virtual-bunnie#t=6) Introduction and Career Background
- [6:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-11-10-222-virtual-bunnie#t=374) Defining Product Management and Engineering Roles
- [12:29](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-11-10-222-virtual-bunnie#t=749) Transition to Embedded Systems and Open Source
- [24:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-11-10-222-virtual-bunnie#t=1480) Writing for 'JavaScript Robotics' and Open Source Maintenance
- [32:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-11-10-222-virtual-bunnie#t=1921) Robotics Tools, ROS, and the Proof-of-Concept Gap
- [40:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-11-10-222-virtual-bunnie#t=2440) Building a Desktop PCB Etching Machine
- [45:16](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-11-10-222-virtual-bunnie#t=2716) Product Management at Particle.io and Technical Debt

## Topics

- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Open-source hardware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/open-source-hardware)
- [Robotics & autonomy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/robotics-and-autonomy)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Particle (company)
- Google (company)
- Johnny-Five (tool)
- Raspberry Pi (product)
- Arduino (product)
- ROS (tool)
- TensorFlow (tool)
- Keras (tool)
- SparkFun (company)
- Nerd Rage (other)
- HackerBoxes (product)
- Bunnie Huang (other)

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- [Episode 109: Building robots at home - Dan Nicholson](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/robot-talk/2025-02-14-episode-109-building-robots-at-home-dan-nicholson) (Robot Talk)
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