# 196: Software Server Thingybob

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2017-04-20
- Length: 1h 07m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/196-software-server-thingybob

## Summary

Aditi Hilbert, a product manager at Runtime.io, explains MyNewt, an Apache-licensed RTOS designed for constrained embedded devices. She details how MyNewt replaces vendor-specific stacks like the Nordic softdevice with a modular, open-source BLE stack and implements OIC/CoAP to provide a consistent web-like interface over Bluetooth Low Energy. The discussion covers the Apache 2.0 license's commercial benefits, the neato package manager, and Runtime.io's business model of providing commercial support and cloud-based device management services.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=6) Introduction and Show Housekeeping
- [1:25](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=85) Aditi Hilbert and Runtime.io Overview
- [4:53](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=293) Defining Web Servers for Embedded Systems
- [10:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=615) Apache Software Foundation and Licensing
- [16:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=997) MyNewt and the Neato Package Manager
- [26:39](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=1599) MyNewt vs. Zephyr and Nordic Softdevice
- [35:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=2155) OIC, CoAP, and HTTP over BLE
- [46:11](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=2771) Security, Secure Bootloaders, and MCUboot
- [56:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-04-20-196-software-server-thingybob#t=3387) Runtime.io Business Model and Cloud Services

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Wireless & RF](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/wireless-and-rf)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Open-source hardware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/open-source-hardware)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Runtime.io (company)
- MyNewt (other)
- Apache Software Foundation (other)
- Nordic nRF52 (chip)
- Zephyr (other)
- MCUboot (other)
- OIC (other)
- CoAP (other)

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