# 149: Flamethrowers Aside

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2016-04-27
- Length: 1h 05m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/embedded-ep149mp3

## Summary

Craig Smith, author of the Car Hackers Handbook and founder of OpenGarages, discusses the technical and cultural aspects of automotive security and modification. He explains how CAN bus networks function, why they lack inherent security, and how attackers can exploit vulnerabilities in infotainment systems to gain code execution. Smith advocates for open access to vehicle data, the use of junkyard parts for safe testing, and the importance of organizations like I Am The Cavalry in bridging the gap between security researchers and traditional automakers.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=6) Introduction and Guest Background
- [3:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=236) OpenGarages and the Car Hacking Community
- [6:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=363) Getting Started with CAN Bus and Tools
- [8:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=511) CAN Bus Architecture and Security Flaws
- [12:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=734) Exploiting Infotainment and Bluetooth
- [17:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=1060) Warranty, Right to Repair, and Manufacturer Pushback
- [29:25](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=1765) Building Test Benches from Junkyard Parts
- [32:34](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=1954) ECU Firmware, Security Tokens, and Lockouts
- [44:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=2680) Disclosure Policies and I Am The Cavalry
- [1:00:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-04-27-149-flamethrowers-aside#t=3607) Book Release and Future of Car Hacking

## Topics

- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Sensors & measurement in products](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sensors)
- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Car Hackers Handbook (product)
- OpenGarages (company)
- Theia Labs (company)
- USB2CAN (tool)
- CANTact (tool)
- ELM 327 (tool)
- I Am The Cavalry (company)
- CERT.org (company)
- No Starch (company)
- STM32 (chip)
- Pioneer (company)
- Google (company)
- Chromebook (product)
- Android (product)
- Metasploit (tool)

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