# 127: Chicken Equals Duck Plus One

- Show: [Embedded.fm](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm)
- Published: 2015-11-26
- Length: 59m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one
- Listen: https://makingembeddedsystems.libsyn.com/embedded-ep127mp3

## Summary

Hosts Elecia White and Christopher White discuss the future of programming languages in embedded systems, arguing that C's dominance is due to compiler optimization capabilities and industry inertia rather than technical superiority. They explore specific C features like the ISO 646.h header, review listener emails regarding career advice and tooling frustrations with OpenOCD, and examine hardware examples like the VoCore Linux board and the ESP8266 Wi-Fi chip.

## Chapters

- [0:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one#t=42) Podcast Awards and Twitter Usage
- [8:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one#t=512) Programming Languages and Compiler Design
- [21:34](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one#t=1294) ISO 646.h and C Operator Aliases
- [30:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one#t=1832) Listener Email: Learning Embedded C
- [37:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one#t=2253) OpenOCD Debugging Frustrations
- [41:36](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one#t=2496) VoCore Linux Board and ESP8266
- [45:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one#t=2731) Star Wars and Career Advice
- [51:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-11-26-127-chicken-equals-duck-plus-one#t=3082) DNA Extraction and Arduino Power Optimization

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- OpenOCD (tool)
- VoCore (product)
- ESP8266 (chip)
- Arduino (product)
- SparkFun (company)
- Adafruit (company)
- MPU-6050 (chip)
- IAR (company)
- Cisco (company)
- Microsoft (company)
- Apple (company)
- Rust (other)
- Go (other)
- Swift (other)
- Matlab (tool)
- Octave (tool)
- LabVIEW (tool)
- Simulink (tool)
- OpenWRT (other)
- Raspberry Pi (product)

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