# A Disaster Waiting to Happen | Get Up, Stand Up

- Show: [EE Times Current](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current)
- Published: 2021-04-02
- Length: 30m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-04-02-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-get-up-stand-up
- Listen: https://www.eetimes.com/podcasts/eetoa-129/

## Summary

Phil Copelman, co-founder of Edge Case Research, argues that SAE Level 3 autonomy is a safety disaster because the standard's complex handoff requirements are unintelligible to drivers, creating a dangerous gap between engineering definitions and human understanding. The episode also examines Amazon's labor practices through the lens of Robin Gaster, author of 'Behemoth, Amazon Rising,' discussing the unionization vote at the Bessemer, Alabama facility and the company's culture of worker disposability. Additionally, the hosts cover Arm's announcement of its V9 architecture and Boston Dynamics' new 'Stretch' warehouse robot.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-04-02-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-get-up-stand-up#t=0) Introduction: EE Times Weekly Briefing
- [1:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-04-02-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-get-up-stand-up#t=119) Arm V9 Architecture and AI Compute
- [6:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-04-02-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-get-up-stand-up#t=372) Phil Copelman on the Dangers of SAE Level 3
- [16:11](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-04-02-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-get-up-stand-up#t=971) Robin Gaster on Amazon's Labor Practices and Union Vote
- [28:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-04-02-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-get-up-stand-up#t=1739) Boston Dynamics Stretch Robot and Conclusion

## Topics

- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)
- [Hiring & workforce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/hiring-and-workforce)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Robotics & autonomy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/robotics-and-autonomy)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies, large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Arm Holdings (company)
- Edge Case Research (company)
- SAE International (other)
- Amazon (company)
- Boston Dynamics (company)
- Stretch (product)

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