# Legislating IoT Safety | TSMC in AZ: Fab or Vaporfab? | Remembering Lucky Lindy

- Show: [EE Times Current](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current)
- Published: 2020-05-22
- Length: 41m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-05-22-legislating-iot-safety-tsmc-in-az-fab-or-vaporfab-remembering-lucky-lindy
- Listen: https://bit.ly/2Zvt0Ge

## Summary

Jack Ogawa, senior director of embedded security products at Cypress Semiconductor (now Infineon), discusses how emerging IoT legislation like California's SB 327 and NIST guidelines is forcing manufacturers to prioritize security as a cost-of-ownership issue rather than just a technical feature. The episode then shifts to TSMC's announcement of a potential fab in Arizona, with EE Times editors Junko Yoshida and Boloji Ojo analyzing the political quid pro quo, supply chain implications, and the distinction between a 'fab' and a 'vaporfab' given the lack of domestic packaging infrastructure. The hosts emphasize that while TSMC's move is significant, the US lacks the necessary backend packaging ecosystem to fully support a leading-edge semiconductor manufacturing base.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-05-22-legislating-iot-safety-tsmc-in-az-fab-or-vaporfab-remembering-lucky-lindy#t=0) Introduction: IoT Safety and TSMC in AZ
- [3:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-05-22-legislating-iot-safety-tsmc-in-az-fab-or-vaporfab-remembering-lucky-lindy#t=190) Jack Ogawa on IoT Security Legislation and Privacy
- [9:44](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-05-22-legislating-iot-safety-tsmc-in-az-fab-or-vaporfab-remembering-lucky-lindy#t=584) Cypress/Infineon's Holistic Security Approach and Cost of Ownership
- [20:34](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-05-22-legislating-iot-safety-tsmc-in-az-fab-or-vaporfab-remembering-lucky-lindy#t=1234) Standardizing Security Across Diverse IoT Segments
- [25:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-05-22-legislating-iot-safety-tsmc-in-az-fab-or-vaporfab-remembering-lucky-lindy#t=1556) TSMC Arizona Fab Announcement and EE Times Investigation
- [32:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-05-22-legislating-iot-safety-tsmc-in-az-fab-or-vaporfab-remembering-lucky-lindy#t=1938) Supply Chain, Packaging, and Political Quid Pro Quo
- [35:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-05-22-legislating-iot-safety-tsmc-in-az-fab-or-vaporfab-remembering-lucky-lindy#t=2156) Remembering Lucky Lindy: The Orteig Prize

## Topics

- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Cypress Semiconductor (company)
- Infineon (company)
- California SB 327 (other)
- NIST (other)
- TSMC (company)
- Samsung (company)
- Intel (company)
- Arm Holdings (company)
- Qualcomm (company)
- Spirit of St. Louis (product)

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