# AV & ADAS: Shall the Twain Ever Meet? | AI & Academia — a Fitful Fit | SiC ‘Em

- Show: [EE Times Current](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current)
- Published: 2019-12-06
- Length: 40m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-12-06-av-adas-shall-the-twain-ever-meet-ai-academia-a-fitful-fit-sic-em
- Listen: https://podcast.show/aspencore/episode/52795280/

## Summary

EE Times editors Brian Santo and Junko Yoshida discuss the divergent development paths of autonomous vehicles (AV) and advanced driver-assistance systems (ADAS), noting that cost structures and liability models prevent a linear transition from one to the other, as seen in Daimler's scaling back of Robotaxi plans. The episode then explores the rise of silicon carbide (SiC) in power electronics, highlighting partnerships between companies like Cree, STMicroelectronics, Soitec, and Applied Materials to overcome manufacturing challenges. Finally, George Leopold and Loring Morbel analyze the 'fitful fit' between AI and academia, arguing that the 'black box' nature of deep learning makes it difficult for universities to meet the quantifiable deliverables required by government and industry funders.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-12-06-av-adas-shall-the-twain-ever-meet-ai-academia-a-fitful-fit-sic-em#t=0) Introduction: AV vs ADAS Development Paths
- [3:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-12-06-av-adas-shall-the-twain-ever-meet-ai-academia-a-fitful-fit-sic-em#t=222) Junko Yoshida on AV and ADAS Technical Differences
- [11:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-12-06-av-adas-shall-the-twain-ever-meet-ai-academia-a-fitful-fit-sic-em#t=707) Silicon Carbide Market Growth and Partnerships
- [14:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-12-06-av-adas-shall-the-twain-ever-meet-ai-academia-a-fitful-fit-sic-em#t=882) SiC Advantages and Manufacturing Challenges
- [22:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-12-06-av-adas-shall-the-twain-ever-meet-ai-academia-a-fitful-fit-sic-em#t=1347) The Fitful Fit of AI and Academia
- [36:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-12-06-av-adas-shall-the-twain-ever-meet-ai-academia-a-fitful-fit-sic-em#t=2162) IP Issues and Historical Tech Moments

## Topics

- [Mechanical engineering](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/mechanical-engineering)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Intellectual property](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/intellectual-property)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises, early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Daimler AG (company)
- Tesla (company)
- Cree (company)
- STMicroelectronics (company)
- Soitec (company)
- Applied Materials (company)
- silicon carbide (material)
- gallium nitride (material)
- DARPA (company)
- National Science Foundation (company)
- Allen Institute (company)
- Segway (product)
- Jarvik 7 (product)
- Pong (product)
- Atari (company)

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