# #015: Developing kid-safe tech at Gabb: what it takes and why it’s so important

- Show: [Coredump Sessions](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions)
- Published: 2025-08-20
- Length: 57m
- Episode: 15
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important
- Listen: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/memfault/episodes/015-Developing-kid-safe-tech-at-Gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important-e373b2e

## Summary

Chad (Director of Product) and Lance (SVP of Marketing) from Gabb discuss building kid-safe IoT devices like the Gabb Watch 3E and Gabb Phone 4. They explain their strategy of using multiple OEMs for hardware and firmware to mitigate supply chain risk, while keeping parental control software and AI-driven content filtering in-house. The conversation covers the challenges of balancing security, privacy (COPPA compliance), and user experience for both children and parents, as well as managing firmware versioning across different product lines.

## Chapters

- [1:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=112) Introduction: Chad and Lance from Gabb
- [4:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=263) Defining Kids Safe Tech and the Market Need
- [10:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=604) Hardware Partnerships and Mission Alignment
- [14:38](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=878) AI for Content Filtering and Safety
- [19:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=1199) Balancing Parental Control with Kid Appeal
- [27:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=1676) Security, Hacking, and COPPA Compliance
- [33:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=1984) Privacy, Data Minimization, and Analytics
- [37:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=2248) Product Development Cycles and Launch Timelines
- [41:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=2467) Managing Multiple Product Lines and Sustaining
- [51:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-08-20-015-developing-kid-safe-tech-at-gabb-what-it-takes-and-why-its-so-important#t=3106) Firmware Versioning and OTA Updates

## Topics

- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Gabb (company)
- Gabb Watch 3E (product)
- Gabb Phone 4 (product)
- Gabb Phone 4 Pro (product)
- Memfault (company)
- Knox (tool)
- Indiegogo (company)
- Verizon (company)
- Pebble (product)
- COPPA (other)

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