# #007: AI, Open Source, and the Future of Embedded Development: How Much Code Will We Actually Write?

- Show: [Coredump Sessions](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions)
- Published: 2025-04-29
- Length: 55m
- Episode: 7
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we
- Listen: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/memfault/episodes/007-AI--Open-Source--and-the-Future-of-Embedded-Development-How-Much-Code-Will-We-Actually-Write-e325vcs

## Summary

François Baldassari, CEO of Memfault, and Thomas Sarlandie, Field CTO of Memfault, host a panel with Jonathan Beri, CEO of Golioth, and Dan Mangum, CTO of Golioth, to discuss the intersection of AI, open source, and embedded development. The group analyzes the maturity of edge AI for audio and video processing, the challenges of integrating LLMs into hardware due to rapid model iteration, and the current state of using AI for firmware development. They conclude that while AI is transforming code generation and review, open source remains critical for training models and providing trusted, complex infrastructure like Zephyr and FreeRTOS.

## Chapters

- [0:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=1) Introduction: Memfault and Golioth Leaders Discuss AI in Embedded Systems
- [2:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=176) The Reality of Edge AI: Audio, Video, and Wake Words
- [8:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=487) Determinism, Chaos, and Safety-Critical AI Constraints
- [11:19](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=679) Cloud AI for Fleet Operations and Anomaly Detection
- [13:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=829) LLMs in Hardware: The Pace Problem and Cloud Dependency
- [20:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=1207) Building Unique Models from Proprietary Device Data
- [36:13](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=2173) Open Source as Training Data and Trusted Infrastructure
- [48:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=2902) AI's Impact on Software Supply Chains and Governance
- [52:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-04-29-007-ai-open-source-and-the-future-of-embedded-development-how-much-code-will-we#t=3143) Career Advice: Staying Relevant in the AI Era

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Open-source hardware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/open-source-hardware)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Memfault (company)
- Golioth (company)
- Zephyr (other)
- Arduino (other)
- ESP-IDF (other)
- Nvidia (company)
- Rabbit R1 (product)
- Humane Pin (product)
- FreeRTOS (other)
- OpenSSL (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [AI-enhanced Embedded Development (May 2025 Edition)](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2025-11-12-ai-enhanced-embedded-development-may-2025-edition) (The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast)
- [AI-augmented software development](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2025-06-25-ai-augmented-software-development) (The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast)
- [Crossover with  Embedded AI Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2025-11-18-crossover-with-embedded-ai-podcast) (The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast)
- [Embedded Systems Engineer Discusses AI-Driven Testing Revolution](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ontrack/2025-06-03-embedded-systems-engineer-discusses-ai-driven-testing-revolution) (OnTrack)
- [AI Tooling with Matt Liberty and Luke Beno](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2026-04-23-ai-tooling-with-matt-liberty-and-luke-beno) (The Amp Hour)

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