# Afterschool Podcast, Episode 13 - Next Generation Gaming Consoles (11/28)

- Show: [Core77 Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/core77-podcast)
- Published: 2013-11-28
- Length: 1h 48m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/core77-podcast/2013-11-28-afterschool-podcast-episode-13-next-generation-gaming-consoles-11-28
- Listen: https://soundcloud.com/corejr/next-gen-game-consoles

## Summary

Don Lehman and Peter Rivera-Pierola discuss the design and market positioning of the newly released PS4, Xbox One, and Wii U. They analyze the PS4's modernist architecture and ergonomic controller, the Xbox One's ambitious but bulky 'living room' integration via the Kinect, and Nintendo's software-driven strategy for the Wii U. The conversation explores how industrial design choices reflect each company's broader business goals, from Sony's focus on gamers to Microsoft's push for media convergence.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/core77-podcast/2013-11-28-afterschool-podcast-episode-13-next-generation-gaming-consoles-11-28#t=0) Introduction: Don Lehman and Peter Rivera-Pierola
- [1:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/core77-podcast/2013-11-28-afterschool-podcast-episode-13-next-generation-gaming-consoles-11-28#t=62) Sotheby's Auction: Johnny Ive, Mark Newson, and Bono
- [14:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/core77-podcast/2013-11-28-afterschool-podcast-episode-13-next-generation-gaming-consoles-11-28#t=850) Wii U Analysis: Software, Design, and the GamePad
- [34:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/core77-podcast/2013-11-28-afterschool-podcast-episode-13-next-generation-gaming-consoles-11-28#t=2048) PS4 Design: Console Form Factor and Controller Ergonomics
- [55:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/core77-podcast/2013-11-28-afterschool-podcast-episode-13-next-generation-gaming-consoles-11-28#t=3315) Xbox One Design: Size, Kinect Integration, and UI
- [1:25:29](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/core77-podcast/2013-11-28-afterschool-podcast-episode-13-next-generation-gaming-consoles-11-28#t=5129) Future Predictions: Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft in 2020

## Topics

- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- PS4 (product)
- Xbox One (product)
- Wii U (product)
- Kinect (product)
- Sony (company)
- Microsoft (company)
- Nintendo (company)
- Johnny Ive (other)
- Mark Newson (other)
- Bono (other)
- Sotheby's (other)

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