# Unpacking DOE's proposal to transform data center interconnection

- Show: [Catalyst](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst)
- Published: 2025-10-30
- Length: 40m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-10-30-unpacking-does-proposal-to-transform-data-center-interconnection

## Summary

Host Shayle Kann speaks with Allison Clements, former FERC commissioner and partner at ASG, and Tyler Norris, a PhD student at Duke University, to analyze Secretary of Energy Chris Wright’s directive to FERC to fast-track interconnection for large loads like data centers. The guests discuss the proposal's assertion of federal jurisdiction over load interconnection, the concept of 'hybrid facilities' co-locating generation and load, and the requirements for curtailable loads to qualify for accelerated 60-day study periods. They also debate the adequacy of 2-hour battery storage versus longer-duration resources and the risks to 'bring-your-own-VPP' models.

## Chapters

- [2:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-10-30-unpacking-does-proposal-to-transform-data-center-interconnection#t=143) Introduction: DOE's 403B Letter and FERC's Authority
- [8:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-10-30-unpacking-does-proposal-to-transform-data-center-interconnection#t=485) Jurisdictional Shift: Federal vs. State Control
- [17:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-10-30-unpacking-does-proposal-to-transform-data-center-interconnection#t=1053) Hybrid Facilities and Co-located Generation
- [21:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-10-30-unpacking-does-proposal-to-transform-data-center-interconnection#t=1297) Flexibility Durations: 2-Hour Batteries vs. Long-Term Needs
- [27:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-10-30-unpacking-does-proposal-to-transform-data-center-interconnection#t=1634) Curtailment Mechanisms and Resource Curves
- [33:45](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-10-30-unpacking-does-proposal-to-transform-data-center-interconnection#t=2025) Front-of-Meter Opportunities and Market Design
- [39:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-10-30-unpacking-does-proposal-to-transform-data-center-interconnection#t=2382) Timeline and Future Regulatory Steps

## Topics

- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- FERC (other)
- DOE (other)
- ASG (company)
- 804 Advisory (company)
- Duke University (other)
- EnergyHub (company)
- Iron Mountain (company)
- Calibrant (company)
- Align Data Centers (company)
- E3 (company)
- Southwest Power Pool (other)
- PJM (other)
- Google (company)
- American Wind Association (company)
- Order 2003 (other)
- Order 1920 (other)

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