# Catalyst Live at SF Climate Week

- Show: [Catalyst](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst)
- Published: 2025-05-01
- Length: 44m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week

## Summary

Host Shayle Kann interviews Mike Schroepfer, co-founder and partner at Gigascale Capital and former CTO of Meta, and Nick Chaset, CEO of Octopus Energy US, at a live event in San Francisco. They discuss the challenges of building successful consumer climate tech products, emphasizing that products must either deliver a delightful user experience or significant economic savings to gain adoption. The panel also plays a game categorizing trends like data center load growth, nuclear fusion, and carbon removal as overhyped, underhyped, or hyped just right, while debating the impact of AI and current political policies on the sector.

## Chapters

- [2:25](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=145) Introduction and Consumer Product Lessons
- [6:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=393) Building Consumer Products in Climate Tech
- [17:29](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=1049) Overhyped vs Underhyped: Data Center Load Growth
- [22:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=1347) Overhyped vs Underhyped: Nuclear Fusion
- [25:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=1514) Overhyped vs Underhyped: Carbon Removal
- [28:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=1723) Overhyped vs Underhyped: Virtual Power Plants
- [32:44](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=1964) Overhyped vs Underhyped: AI for Climate Tech
- [35:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=2155) Political Impact and Least Appreciated Categories
- [42:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2025-05-01-catalyst-live-at-sf-climate-week#t=2578) Craziest Ideas That Might Work

## Topics

- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Gigascale Capital (company)
- Octopus Energy US (company)
- Meta (company)
- Tesla (company)
- Mill (product)
- EnergyHub (company)
- Nvidia (company)
- Water (company)

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