# The early days of transoceanic hydrogen transport

- Show: [Catalyst](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst)
- Published: 2023-07-13
- Length: 43m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport

## Summary

Anne-Sophie Corbeau, a senior research scholar at Columbia University’s SIPA Center on Global Energy Policy and former head of Gas Analysis for BP, discusses the economic and technical challenges of transporting hydrogen across oceans. She evaluates five primary transport methods: liquefied hydrogen, e-methane, liquid organic hydrogen carriers (LOHCs), ammonia, and methanol, highlighting the prohibitive energy costs of liquefaction and the high price of synthetic methane. The conversation also covers the geopolitical implications of hydrogen trade, the potential for repurposing natural gas pipelines, and the strategic decision for exporting nations to produce hydrogen-derived products like steel rather than exporting raw hydrogen.

## Chapters

- [0:34](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport#t=34) Introduction: The Volumetric Energy Density Challenge
- [7:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport#t=421) Geopolitics of Hydrogen Trade: Importers and Exporters
- [12:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport#t=753) Liquefied Hydrogen: Temperature and Cost Barriers
- [17:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport#t=1030) E-Methane: Leveraging Existing Infrastructure
- [23:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport#t=1413) Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carriers (LOHCs)
- [29:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport#t=1767) Ammonia and Methanol as Hydrogen Carriers
- [34:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport#t=2087) Pipelines and Repurposing Natural Gas Infrastructure
- [39:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2023-07-13-the-early-days-of-transoceanic-hydrogen-transport#t=2381) Strategic Outlook: Products vs. Raw Hydrogen

## Topics

- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Logistics & fulfilment](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/logistics-and-fulfillment)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Columbia University’s SIPA Center on Global Energy Policy (company)
- BP (company)
- Cipher News (other)
- IRENA (company)
- IEA (company)
- Energy Hub (company)
- Bloom Energy (company)
- Suiseu Frontier (product)
- NEOM (company)
- LW (company)
- Equinor (company)
- NSOG (company)
- GIE (company)

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