# What’s holding up hydrogen in Europe?

- Show: [Catalyst](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst)
- Published: 2022-10-20
- Length: 43m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-10-20-whats-holding-up-hydrogen-in-europe

## Summary

Gniewomir Flis, an independent hydrogen consultant and former researcher at Agora Energiewende, discusses the regulatory paralysis stalling Europe's hydrogen economy. He explains how the US Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) has intensified debates over the EU's delegated act, specifically regarding the three criteria for renewable hydrogen: additionality, temporal correlation, and geographic correlation. Flis analyzes the strategic choices for hydrogen transport, noting ammonia's dominance as a carrier, and contrasts the potential for Chinese electrolyzer manufacturing in Europe with the lessons learned from the solar industry.

## Chapters

- [0:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-10-20-whats-holding-up-hydrogen-in-europe#t=2) Introduction and Pre-Ukraine Market Context
- [4:39](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-10-20-whats-holding-up-hydrogen-in-europe#t=279) Defining Renewable Hydrogen and Subsidies
- [12:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-10-20-whats-holding-up-hydrogen-in-europe#t=732) The IRA's Impact on EU Regulatory Debate
- [19:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-10-20-whats-holding-up-hydrogen-in-europe#t=1194) Regulatory Stalemate and Project Sentiment
- [25:39](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-10-20-whats-holding-up-hydrogen-in-europe#t=1539) Hydrogen Import Strategies and Carriers
- [34:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-10-20-whats-holding-up-hydrogen-in-europe#t=2092) Electrolyzer Manufacturing and Technology Selection

## Topics

- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Agora Energiewende (company)
- Inflation Reduction Act (other)
- Energy Hub (company)
- Bloom Energy (company)
- John Cockrell (company)
- Sunfire (company)
- Tree Energy Solutions (company)
- Marisk (company)

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