# Growing the Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) market

- Show: [Catalyst](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst)
- Published: 2022-05-05
- Length: 51m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-05-05-growing-the-carbon-dioxide-removal-cdr-market

## Summary

Ryan Orbuch, a partner at Lowercarbon Capital and former lead of Stripe’s carbon removal initiatives, discusses the emerging Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) market with host Shayle Khan. They analyze the diverse technologies involved, from biomass to engineered solutions, and critique the current voluntary carbon credit market's lack of rigor regarding permanence and additionality. Orbuch argues for separating the cost of verification from the price of removal to create a credible commodity market and highlights critical bottlenecks like energy consumption and nutrient scarcity.

## Chapters

- [0:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-05-05-growing-the-carbon-dioxide-removal-cdr-market#t=2) Introduction to CDR and the Frontier Fund
- [5:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-05-05-growing-the-carbon-dioxide-removal-cdr-market#t=321) Categorizing CDR: Organic vs. Inorganic
- [12:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-05-05-growing-the-carbon-dioxide-removal-cdr-market#t=753) The Role of CDR in Decarbonization Strategy
- [16:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-05-05-growing-the-carbon-dioxide-removal-cdr-market#t=974) Permanence, Durability, and Additionality
- [29:38](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-05-05-growing-the-carbon-dioxide-removal-cdr-market#t=1778) Verification Costs and Market Structure
- [37:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-05-05-growing-the-carbon-dioxide-removal-cdr-market#t=2223) Scaling Bottlenecks: Energy and Nutrients
- [43:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2022-05-05-growing-the-carbon-dioxide-removal-cdr-market#t=2635) Radiative Forcing and Holistic Climate Impact

## Topics

- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Sustainability & circular products](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sustainability-and-circularity)
- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Lowercarbon Capital (company)
- Stripe (company)
- Frontier Fund (other)
- Energy Hub (company)
- Bloom Energy (company)

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