# Live for Your Drive

- Show: [Built 2 Scale](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale)
- Published: 2026-08-03
- Length: 1h 01m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive
- Listen: https://b2spod.captivate.fm

## Summary

Hosts Matt Perrott and Scott Wilcox discuss the economic shift from 'token maxing' to LLM routing as open-source models like Kimi close the gap on frontier labs. They explore the emerging HR challenges of employee token spend, the mobile nature of voice-based AI work, and BuildPass's upcoming Apple Watch integration for site defect walks. The episode also covers a 45-minute hackathon that produced 'Tinder for Talent' and the future of AI glasses in construction.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive#t=0) Introduction and Open Source Models
- [3:13](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive#t=193) Token Maxing to LLM Routing
- [11:39](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive#t=699) The Token HR Problem
- [14:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive#t=877) Voice Work and Apple Watch Integration
- [31:44](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive#t=1904) 45-Minute Hackathon and Tinder for Talent
- [47:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive#t=2829) AI Glasses and Construction Defects
- [55:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive#t=3341) Audience Q&A and Closing

## Topics

- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Hiring & workforce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/hiring-and-workforce)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Kimi (product)
- Fable (product)
- Claude (product)
- OpenAI (company)
- Anthropic (company)
- Uber Eats (product)
- Ramp (company)
- Granola (product)
- Apple Watch (product)
- BuildPass (product)
- Superite (product)
- LinkedIn (company)
- Tinder for Talent (product)
- Whisper Flow (product)
- Lovable (product)

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