# Meta's AR Leak, Larry's TikTok Takeover & Brett Burns Another Billion

- Show: [Built 2 Scale](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale)
- Published: 2025-09-19
- Length: 1h 07m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion
- Listen: https://b2spod.captivate.fm

## Summary

Hosts Scott Wilcox and Matt Perrott discuss Meta's leaked AR Ray-Bans with EMG wristband control, contrasting them with the failed Apple Vision Pro. They analyze Elon Musk's revelations on Tesla Optimus complexity and Larry Ellison's strategic moves with Oracle and TikTok, while also covering Figure AI's massive valuation and Mira Murati's deterministic AI research.

## Chapters

- [0:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=14) Intro and Google Nano Banana Demo
- [5:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=326) Meta Ray-Bans AR Leak and EMG Wristband
- [9:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=586) Elon Musk on Tesla Optimus Complexity
- [17:34](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=1054) Larry Ellison's Oracle and TikTok Deals
- [20:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=1247) Demis Hassabis and Google's AI Structure
- [24:16](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=1456) Robot Rundown: Factory Automation and Figure AI
- [42:38](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=2558) Mira Murati's Deterministic AI Research
- [49:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=2942) Tool of the Week: Granola vs ChatGPT Voice
- [54:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-09-19-metas-ar-leak-larrys-tiktok-takeover-brett-burns-another-billion#t=3268) Parting Wisdom and AI Top 5 Draft

## Topics

- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Robotics & autonomy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/robotics-and-autonomy)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Fundraising & investors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fundraising)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Meta Ray-Bans (product)
- Apple Vision Pro (product)
- Tesla Optimus (product)
- Oracle (company)
- TikTok (product)
- Figure AI (company)
- Granola (tool)
- ChatGPT (product)
- Google (company)
- DeepMind (company)
- Nvidia (company)
- OpenAI (company)
- Mira Murati (other)
- Larry Ellison (other)
- Elon Musk (other)
- Demis Hassabis (other)
- Brett Adcock (other)
- Brookfield (company)
- Macquarie (company)
- Anthropic (company)

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- [How to Build a Metaverse](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-11-05-how-to-build-a-metaverse) (EE Times Current)
- [EP 135: INTEL AND NVIDIA!! Meta Connect and Ray Ban Display, Watch Huawei/China](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2025-09-20-ep-135-intel-and-nvidia-meta-connect-and-ray-ban-display-watch-huawei-china) (The Circuit)
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