# The Blueprint for Scaling: Google’s A2A protocol, GPT-4.1, Memes and more

- Show: [Built 2 Scale](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale)
- Published: 2025-04-30
- Length: 1h 08m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more
- Listen: https://b2spod.captivate.fm

## Summary

Hosts Matt Perrott (BuildPass) and Scott Wilcox (W Build) discuss the rapid evolution of AI agents, highlighting Google's new A2A protocol and OpenAI's acquisition talks with Codium. They analyze the competitive landscape between Tesla and Waymo in autonomous driving, the rise of drone delivery by Zipline, and the potential for humanoid robots to replace domestic labor while raising privacy concerns. The conversation also covers the decline of traditional consulting firms due to AI capabilities and the role of technology in rebuilding communities, such as post-disaster housing in LA.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more#t=0) Introduction and Memes
- [5:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more#t=356) Chick-fil-A Culture and Scaling Lessons
- [10:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more#t=655) Litigious Behavior and IP in Tech
- [23:53](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more#t=1433) Google Summit: A2A Protocol and NotebookLM
- [35:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more#t=2104) OpenAI, Codium, and Model Updates
- [43:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more#t=2631) Tesla vs Waymo and Zipline Drones
- [54:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more#t=3258) Autonomous Homes and Privacy Concerns
- [1:00:48](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2025-04-30-the-blueprint-for-scaling-googles-a2a-protocol-gpt-4-1-memes-and-more#t=3648) The End of Consulting and Future of Housing

## Topics

- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Robotics & autonomy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/robotics-and-autonomy)
- [Growth, exits & acquisitions](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/growth-exits-and-acquisitions)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Google (company)
- A2A protocol (other)
- OpenAI (company)
- Codium (company)
- Windsurf (product)
- Tesla (company)
- Waymo (company)
- Zipline (company)
- NotebookLM (product)
- Lovable (product)
- Figma (company)
- Cursor (product)
- ChatGPT (product)
- Uber (company)
- Accenture (company)

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