# S1E03 This ain’t your grandma’s cooling technology | David Binger

- Show: [Being an Engineer](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer)
- Published: 2020-05-01
- Length: 48m
- Episode: 3
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2020-05-01-s1e03-this-aint-your-grandmas-cooling-technology-david-binger

## Summary

David Binger, CTO at Forced Physics, explains how his background in computer science and MEMS prototyping led to the development of a static, non-moving heat exchanger for data centers. He details the company's pivot from a large 'Jewel Force Conductor' to a smaller 'Micro Conductor' form factor to fit standard motherboards, addressing the primary hurdle of integration. Binger highlights the technology's ability to eliminate traditional cooling infrastructure, reducing energy consumption by over 90% compared to conventional data center cooling systems.

## Chapters

- [0:13](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2020-05-01-s1e03-this-aint-your-grandmas-cooling-technology-david-binger#t=13) Introduction and Career Background
- [3:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2020-05-01-s1e03-this-aint-your-grandmas-cooling-technology-david-binger#t=213) MEMS Exchange and Early Forced Physics Work
- [12:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2020-05-01-s1e03-this-aint-your-grandmas-cooling-technology-david-binger#t=743) The Heteroscopic Turbine Moonshot
- [18:45](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2020-05-01-s1e03-this-aint-your-grandmas-cooling-technology-david-binger#t=1125) The Static Heat Exchanger Technology
- [25:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2020-05-01-s1e03-this-aint-your-grandmas-cooling-technology-david-binger#t=1558) Energy Efficiency and Market Applications
- [31:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2020-05-01-s1e03-this-aint-your-grandmas-cooling-technology-david-binger#t=1892) Form Factor Pivot: Jewel to Micro Conductor
- [39:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2020-05-01-s1e03-this-aint-your-grandmas-cooling-technology-david-binger#t=2340) Engineering Advice and Conclusion

## Topics

- [Mechanical engineering](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/mechanical-engineering)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Forced Physics (company)
- MEMS Exchange (company)
- Jewel Force Conductor (product)
- Micro Conductor (product)
- Python (other)
- CNRI (company)

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- [Smart Air, Smarter Cooling: Actasys's Innovation in Data Center Technology](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/over-the-air/2025-02-10-smart-air-smarter-cooling-actasyss-innovation-in-data-center-technology) (Over the Air)
- [Episode 58: Discussion with Ventiva CEO, Carl Schlachte on Thermals/Cooling](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-03-13-episode-58-discussion-with-ventiva-ceo-carl-schlachte-on-thermals-cooling) (The Circuit)
- [The truth about data center water usage](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/catalyst/2026-10-08-the-truth-about-data-center-water-usage) (Catalyst)
- [Ep. 27 | Two Google Senior VPs of Engineering: From Shipping Containers to Today's Data Centers](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2021-06-22-ep-27-two-google-senior-vps-of-engineering-from-shipping-containers-to-todays-da) (Moore's Lobby)
- [An Interview with Rick Altherr](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-08-29-an-interview-with-rick-altherr) (The Amp Hour)

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